I have no issue with people disagreeing with me. I take issue with you coming on to a rugby forum and saying that anyone who takes a side not yours is not a rugby player/fan/ex player. It is clear, it is simple and Hutchie is in agreement as he has stated multiple times.

So a simple summary for you, it goes against the rugby spirit to call rugby players not rugby players because they disagree with you. It goes within the rugby spirit to ensure that there is correction made to those that say such things.

I am not surprised you cannot understant this statement as you showed you are a person without values.

So, when a real rugby fan/player/ex player is passionate about his sport, and believes in this sport spirit... then yes... he will respect the values of Rugby. He will not do something that is at the opposite way of Rugby’s spirit (e.g. match fixing... or insulting people... just saying..). Because he is not a gamer.. he is not here to win by all means.. he is more here to find the “rugby experience” (as much as he can.. even if there are some unrealistic things).

For the gamers.. it s more about winning the game... and Rugby spirit is not a priority. (Am I insulting gamers? No.. at the end of the day it s a game..)

Now, I see again your limitation... so I need to go deeper in the explanation.
Among the “gamers” they are also players/ex-players etc... but they are more “gamers”... For them the rules of this game are more important than the rules/spirit of Rugby itself...
Meaning if tomorrow you found a sneaky way to make a forward-pass which will grant you a try each time.. you will be happy to use it during each game..
I personally wouldn t as for me it would be cheating. (And I don t ask you to share my view.. that s my opinion). And I will survive if somebody beats me in a game... (even if it s because he used an MB and a forward-pass at the last minute)..

But claiming that the only way of seing it is as “not cheating” is sad.. as it shows you have no open-mindedness, and respect for the other people (and obviously that you think you re the smartest person on Earth).

So you are calling Hutchie a non real rugby player/fan/ex player. You are calling dhsp the same. You are calling every single player of this game in the top 3 levels of this game the same thing. If this is the world of your rugby spirit then I don't want to be part of it and few real rugby player would.

Hold on, why do I have pick a side as this isn’t “black and white”.
I don’t think using mb, laundering rp’s or “match fixing” is cheating BECAUSE IT IS A GAME!!!!!! But that doesn’t make me a gamer, as you put it.
In 30 mins, my rugby match kicks off as I am a current player and I’m fully aware of the values of the game.

Why are people getting confused between real rugby and rugby manager which is an COMPUTER GAME, it’s not real!!!!

You can feel free to define cheating as you like. I definitely it as breaking a rule. You are the one that set the sides and said if someone disagrees with you it's fine, but it proves they aren't a real rugby player fan or ex player. You are the one trying to shut down disagreement with that statement. I !erely showed how stupid it was to say it and continued to cut off your arms and legs while you co tinued to profess victory.

In our guild you would get kicked out if you would fix a game with a teammate. Many of us are at the same level.. and almost each season, some players are in the same championship. We play a real game.. It never ended in a a draw.
And we were even trying to smash our guild mate to get an offensive bonus.
We haven t even considered once doing a draw... (but again, it s our way of playing.... and I am not asking everybody to do the same)

Precisely.

But that’s not the argument you first presented kotj?