What is great about this gvg is that we have proven on several instances that our 25s can go up 4 levels clean, our 30s can defend against 32s cleanly, and it's agreed that we are mb free as we advertised. You all never claimed mb free, but the distinct advantage you have would indicate it would be an utter waste of cash, so I don't care if you all used it or not, unless you have and say you haven't. Regardless, glad you all know we aren't talking on here with nothing to back it up unlike some folks on this forum that try to confuse the conversations (once again, not talking world xv here, but rather a couple other guys trying to say they are more than they are)