And after sleeping on it, I do have to admit something that I couldn't agree on too. I don't think I could agree with one part of it. I like to fucking curse, and evidently some poes in damage don't fucking like me fucking using the "F" word on the chat wall. Well, at least on one fucking version of fucking SN fucked up games. So fuck em then.

Hypocrites are hypocrites mate.... It's useless trying to shove it up their arses if they keep carrying on what they're doing and then resisting...

No hijack at all, I just want all the cheating to stop. Everywhere for good.
I guess you didn’t have the agreement from the others!
All the best Damage.

This is actually an interesting question. It was my very first reaction too when I heard about it. It felt a little bit like the wages cheat. However Sweet Nitro take issue with anything that basically deprives them of money. Obviously making millions upon millions of RP means that teams can a) play for free and b) they don't have to spend money on gold to buy recruiter points or players to sell.

The other interesting thing about this entire affair is how we gauge what is right and wrong in the game. The game's terms and conditions are the only legal frame of reference for us as players and developer. The following are prohibited, inter alia:

1) Multiple accounts. So anyone with 2 teams or more is in a state of noncompliance and the penalty is clearly stated that you have your account TERMINATED and the user excluded from the game.
2) Hacking other players' accounts.
3) Transferring accounts and resources (e.g. RP) between teams in a guild.
4) Sharing accounts.
5) Misuse of forums/chats (see their list of acceptable content and language).
6) Masking your ip address when making purchases.
7) The use of hacks, cheats, bots or any tool to give you an unfair competitive advantage.
8) Sharing cheat or hack information in the chat.

We have all tacitly agreed to these terms and conditions by signing up to the game and we had 14 days to withdraw consent to them and have our accounts deleted.

Interestingly there is no mention of refunds. In fact a consumer's right to make refunds on purchases made online is enshrined in law in most countries. Refundgate is, at its core, a matter of policy and procedure between Facebook and Sweet Nitro. The only time it can be construed as fraud is if the reason provided for the refund is manifestly false. But we've been down this rabbit hole at length and I apologised for my actions in this to you all and made good financially with SN.

It is clear that all the current rhetoric against Damage is purely manufactured and false as probably more than 50% of players have breached the terms and conditions of the game. People just throw the word cheat around arbitrarily to suit their own world view and agenda on the game.

Lastly, these tactics don't work against Damage, as we are as strong as ever. Too many people see through all the nonsense.

Are you really trying to justify the actions the have caused banning of teams In a couple of guilds with all these elements?

No

An interesting perspective from what I am assuming to be a natural perspective. How would you adjust the offer of peace agreement?

I’m happy to sign up to a pact that will stop any cheating from any guild. and was hoping to the same from others.

So you'd be willing to delete your multiple accounts and kick anyone from your guilds that have ever signed into another account or currently manage another person's account - and exclude yourself and them from the game?

Also you'd have to get Cagnan to sign up to any pact to stop any form of cheating. You approached him for an alliance so you'd be the ideal person to broker the truce talks with him. I'd support you in that personally and would most definitely speak to Damage to get some sort of accord going if all the guilds would sign up.

But then we have the problem of the breached terms and conditions of the game. We'd all essentially be banned anyway apart from an isolated few and the game would collapse financially.